I CANT BELIEVE THIS.

I can't believe we would even bring up incorparating the USAAC

Give me a break. This is a fricken clubsite. as in club.

It has nothing to with any corparation.

THIS IS A CLUB SITE THAT TBAR CONTINUES

TO TRY TO RUN LIKE A DAM COMPANY.

I AM SO SICK OF ALL THE OBEJTION TO REMOVING THE USAAC FROM THE TOW.

IT HAS BEEN TIED INTO TOW SINCE THE START.

BECAUSE OF ALL THE CONTROVERSY ABOUT THE CLUB SITE BEING CONNECTED TO TOW WE DECIDED TO MOVE IT TO A DIFFERENT SERVER.

TBAR YOU HAVE FOUGHT ALL OF US TOOTH AND NAIL

THROWN UP EVERY OBJECTION IN THE BOOK, AND NOW YOU BRING UP INCORPARATING THE SITE.

I TELL YOU WHAT SINCE YOU ARE SO DEAD SET AGAINST EVERYTHING WE ARE

TRYING TO DO MAYBE WE SHOULD ALL LEAVE AND YOU CAN RUN THIS FRICKEN SITE ANY WAY YOU PLEASE.

NOW SINCE FIRESTORM AND I HAVE QUIT THE BBC AND MOVED TO WS I AM SURE YOUR NEXT MOVE WILL BE TO REMOVE US FROM THE BOD.

WS HAS AGREED TO JOIN THE USAAC AND PUT FIRE AND ME IN AS THE VOICE.

BUT NOW I REALLY DONT THINK I WANT TO BE A PART OF THIS ANYMORE.

IT SEEMS LIKE ALL OF THESE FORUMS ARE TURNING INTO A FIGHT.

I NOW HAVE NO DESIRE TO ASK WS TO JOIN THIS CLUB AS LONG AS YOU ARE ON THE BOD.

IT SEEMS TO ME YOU GO AROUND THE SITE LOOKING FOR ANYONE WHO MIGHT

SAY THE WRONG THING, POST IN THE WRONG PLACE, YOU ARE VERY QUICK TO POINT OUT ANYTHING WRONG AND QUOTING RULES TO THEM

I'M SURE THIS POST WILL p--- OF ALL THE BOD,BUT THIS IS HOW I FEEL,YOU WILL NEVER BACK DOWN OR ADMIT WHEN YOUR WRONG.

SO SHOULD I LEAVE THE USAAC COMPLEATY OR WILL YOU DROP ALL THIS BS ?

MY APOLOGIES TO THE REST OF THE BOD AND STAFF, I'VE JUST HAD ENOUGH.

THIS HAS GONE WAY OVER THE TOP.

p----- OFF POP.

And the next act of this drama will be a post from TBar quoting every sentence of Popgun's post and giving a lengthy denial, protestation of innocence , and explanation of every point.

Tbar, please leave it alone; it has all been said already.

Pop, calm down. The new site has been agreed to and it will, as I understand it, be just that...a new site with its purpose and methods clearly but, hopefully, simply stated. BSS will, of course, still be a member squad entitled to a voice but no squad alone will have a controlling voice. If WS joins that will be great in my opinion. The more clubs we represent the better.

Please, pop don't bow out now when we are so close to getting what we all want. These few obstacles along the way are of no account...we just jump over them.

Sorry folks if I seem to be overstepping my bounds. I know I'm just a minor staff member which is all I wanted to be but I just hate to see good people getting so vexed over something we can solve with a bit of patience and good will.

Look up in the sky........

It's a Bird........

It's plane..........

No, It's the HAWKSTER.........

I agree with Pop's in a way.......

I don't agree with Pop's that him and FireStorm had joined WarShips, dam, Terror of the Skies are the black sheep of this community why didn't you guys ask us first, lol, j/k.........

I never did figure out how to dissect a post quote by quote, I need some help on that, lol.......

Chill Pop's, clearer skies are coming and the Hawk will hunt you now, hehe.......

::yawn:::stretch:::

OMG.. this early in the moring ..its before noon!!

MY APOLOGIES TO THE REST OF THE BOD AND STAFF, I'VE JUST HAD ENOUGH.
THIS HAS GONE WAY OVER THE TOP.

Typical.. blame Tbar.

It's been going on long enough for a very long time... and way over the ToP.

TBAR YOU HAVE FOUGHT ALL OF US TOOTH AND NAIL
THROWN UP EVERY OBJECTION IN THE BOOK, AND NOW YOU BRING UP INCORPARATING THE SITE.

This is here to make Redacteur happy, I would not want her to be WRONG about anything. Oh.. and cheers Hawk for trying to lighten up the tone.

Tbar never "fought" anything .. I had to fight to 'defend' the constant attack on me .. Tbar always co-operated with the BoD.. its on record. Why would you get ticked off at Tbar for something he never said .. or presented .. or did? Typical.

Joker is an upstanding person .. he is his own man, now you are starting to jump all over his case ..for an "opinion"? So do I deduce from this that it is ONLY ok to express opinion when it falls in line with the elite?

I TELL YOU WHAT SINCE YOU ARE SO DEAD SET AGAINST EVERYTHING WE ARE
TRYING TO DO MAYBE WE SHOULD ALL LEAVE AND YOU CAN RUN THIS FRICKEN SITE ANY WAY YOU PLEASE.

If you have such a problem with understanding how the USAAC works .. then maybe you should not be a BoD member? Been said over and over.. no one person calls the shots .. the BoD is in control .. always has been.

SO SHOULD I LEAVE THE USAAC COMPLEATY OR WILL YOU DROP ALL THIS BS

I believe you started the post.. a post with misinformation and error within it. I think that it is posts like this that do more harm than good... harm to innocent people. You sir.. seem to be on a witch hunt.

Rules of the BoD are clear and have been in place for a very long time. Because I 'care' and point out the rules and even make suggestions on how to accomplish something 'within' the rules .. you want to hang me and point me out as the 'devil'?

You make it sound like all problems of the BoD and the USAAC are Tbar's fault. When did I ever 'force' anyone to vote one way or another? Never .. you have been in control Pop.

The BBC decides who is.. and who is not a member of the USAAC BoD, not me. Ask them. Ask the USAAC Charter, not me. If the Warships want to join the USAAC, that is up to them, and the BoD .. not me.

Address your concerns to the BoD, not at me. If you want my "opinion" I'll give it, and if you don't.. then don't ask a public question for all to input on. You are in control of that..

I take offense to the wording "fight tooth and nail". Do I not have an opinion just like you? Do I not work just as hard as you do? Do I attack everyone, no. Do I do my duty as a responsible BoD member and point out things the BoD needs to address? Yes.

I don't have a BEEF with you Pop .. but your giving me reasons to have one

I never did figure out how to dissect a post quote by quote, I need some help on that, lol.......

Hey Hawk, I can show you how to do that "quote" thing.. its really easy actually

Pop M8,

go take a relaxer...

Pop M8,
go take a relaxer...

Would that be a X-relaxer, just had mine, ahhhhhhhhh........

Well, show me Tbar, I await.

ok.. Hawk.. but don't get mad at me .. cuz its so ez a ... could do it j/k

Simply highlight the text you want to quote ..copy then past it in your message and put quote tags around it I don't know if you have noticed this.. but when you are in reply mode .. scroll down and you can see a lot of the previous post .. and where you can't see any more posts .. there is a link to review the entire thread in a separate window.

Like this

Well, show me Tbar, I await.

Also.. you can quote the whole text so it has the users name etc .. then just delete out what you don't want to quote Normally when I take that approach I put ellipsis's in so the reader will know its not a total quote. Like this: quote ... ... aaa bbb ccc ddd ... end quote.

The multi quote allows one to quote several different post .. but I always found that to be a bit much if the post your quoting has more than one or two lines of text.

I can't believe we would even bring up incorparating the USAAC
Give me a break. This is a fricken clubsite. as in club.

It has nothing to with any corparation.

THIS IS A CLUB SITE THAT TBAR CONTINUES

TO TRY TO RUN LIKE A DAM COMPANY.

I AM SO SICK OF ALL THE OBEJTION TO REMOVING THE USAAC FROM THE TOW.

IT HAS BEEN TIED INTO TOW SINCE THE START.

BECAUSE OF ALL THE CONTROVERSY ABOUT THE CLUB SITE BEING CONNECTED TO TOW WE DECIDED TO MOVE IT TO A DIFFERENT SERVER.

TBAR YOU HAVE FOUGHT ALL OF US TOOTH AND NAIL

THROWN UP EVERY OBJECTION IN THE BOOK, AND NOW YOU BRING UP INCORPARATING THE SITE.

I TELL YOU WHAT SINCE YOU ARE SO DEAD SET AGAINST EVERYTHING WE ARE

TRYING TO DO MAYBE WE SHOULD ALL LEAVE AND YOU CAN RUN THIS FRICKEN SITE ANY WAY YOU PLEASE.

NOW SINCE FIRESTORM AND I HAVE QUIT THE BBC AND MOVED TO WS I AM SURE YOUR NEXT MOVE WILL BE TO REMOVE US FROM THE BOD.

WS HAS AGREED TO JOIN THE USAAC AND PUT FIRE AND ME IN AS THE VOICE.

BUT NOW I REALLY DONT THINK I WANT TO BE A PART OF THIS ANYMORE.

IT SEEMS LIKE ALL OF THESE FORUMS ARE TURNING INTO A FIGHT.

I NOW HAVE NO DESIRE TO ASK WS TO JOIN THIS CLUB AS LONG AS YOU ARE ON THE BOD.

IT SEEMS TO ME YOU GO AROUND THE SITE LOOKING FOR ANYONE WHO MIGHT

SAY THE WRONG THING, POST IN THE WRONG PLACE, YOU ARE VERY QUICK TO POINT OUT ANYTHING WRONG AND QUOTING RULES TO THEM

I'M SURE THIS POST WILL p--- OF ALL THE BOD,BUT THIS IS HOW I FEEL,YOU WILL NEVER BACK DOWN OR ADMIT WHEN YOUR WRONG.

SO SHOULD I LEAVE THE USAAC COMPLEATY OR WILL YOU DROP ALL THIS BS ?

MY APOLOGIES TO THE REST OF THE BOD AND STAFF, I'VE JUST HAD ENOUGH.

THIS HAS GONE WAY OVER THE TOP.

p----- OFF POP.

Settle down and take a deep breath Popgun, First it was not Tbar who said anything about incorporation. It was me. You guys are the ones that opened up the can of worms and now you have to take a look at what being 'independent really means. It's like turning 18 years of age and moving out of your parents house. It sounds good, until you get out and see the real world. Then it's mommy can I can I come back home and stay for a while. You realize that home was not such a bad place after all.

After a while you learn to go with the flow and find out what it means to be and adult.

You want the USAAC to be independent? Then it has to be incorporated. I don't care if you like it or not. Fact is, if the USAAC is to stand on it's own two feet and not be "owned" by any one person or party other than the USAAC, then you have to incorporate it. Other than that the USAAC will be owned by someone or group of people. To make the USAAC a entity in it's own right, it needs to be incorporated.

The Warships are a good group of guys. I'm sure that if Noodles and Sal want's to bring them over to the USAAC, they will be welcome with open arms. I welcome the Warships to join the USAAC. Sal knows we have a charter in place and whats involved in joining the USAAC. If they wanted to be a part of the USAAC they would of probably joined us a while back. I don't think they are waiting for Popgun's blessing in order to join the USAAC.

So Popgun just stick that knife in little deeper into Tbars twist it a little more. I'm sure he is use to it by now.

JoKeR

This is just the facts. Live with it!

I can't believe we would even bring up incorparating the USAAC
Give me a break. This is a fricken clubsite. as in club.

It has nothing to with any corparation.

THIS IS A CLUB SITE THAT TBAR CONTINUES

TO TRY TO RUN LIKE A DAM COMPANY.

I AM SO SICK OF ALL THE OBEJTION TO REMOVING THE USAAC FROM THE TOW.

IT HAS BEEN TIED INTO TOW SINCE THE START.

BECAUSE OF ALL THE CONTROVERSY ABOUT THE CLUB SITE BEING CONNECTED TO TOW WE DECIDED TO MOVE IT TO A DIFFERENT SERVER.

TBAR YOU HAVE FOUGHT ALL OF US TOOTH AND NAIL

THROWN UP EVERY OBJECTION IN THE BOOK, AND NOW YOU BRING UP INCORPARATING THE SITE.

I TELL YOU WHAT SINCE YOU ARE SO DEAD SET AGAINST EVERYTHING WE ARE

TRYING TO DO MAYBE WE SHOULD ALL LEAVE AND YOU CAN RUN THIS FRICKEN SITE ANY WAY YOU PLEASE.

NOW SINCE FIRESTORM AND I HAVE QUIT THE BBC AND MOVED TO WS I AM SURE YOUR NEXT MOVE WILL BE TO REMOVE US FROM THE BOD.

WS HAS AGREED TO JOIN THE USAAC AND PUT FIRE AND ME IN AS THE VOICE.

BUT NOW I REALLY DONT THINK I WANT TO BE A PART OF THIS ANYMORE.

IT SEEMS LIKE ALL OF THESE FORUMS ARE TURNING INTO A FIGHT.

I NOW HAVE NO DESIRE TO ASK WS TO JOIN THIS CLUB AS LONG AS YOU ARE ON THE BOD.

IT SEEMS TO ME YOU GO AROUND THE SITE LOOKING FOR ANYONE WHO MIGHT

SAY THE WRONG THING, POST IN THE WRONG PLACE, YOU ARE VERY QUICK TO POINT OUT ANYTHING WRONG AND QUOTING RULES TO THEM

I'M SURE THIS POST WILL p--- OF ALL THE BOD,BUT THIS IS HOW I FEEL,YOU WILL NEVER BACK DOWN OR ADMIT WHEN YOUR WRONG.

SO SHOULD I LEAVE THE USAAC COMPLEATY OR WILL YOU DROP ALL THIS BS ?

MY APOLOGIES TO THE REST OF THE BOD AND STAFF, I'VE JUST HAD ENOUGH.

THIS HAS GONE WAY OVER THE TOP.

p----- OFF POP.

Settle down and take a deep breath Popgun, First it was not Tbar who said anything about incorporation. It was me. You guys are the ones that opened up the can of worms and now you have to take a look at what being 'independent really means. It's like turning 18 years of age and moving out of your parents house. It sounds good, until you get out and see the real world. Then it's mommy can I can I come back home and stay for a while. You realize that home was not such a bad place after all.

After a while you learn to go with the flow and find out what it means to be and adult.

You want the USAAC to be independent? Then it has to be incorporated. I don't care if you like it or not. Fact is, if the USAAC is to stand on it's own two feet and not be "owned" by any one person or party other than the USAAC, then you have to incorporate it. Other than that the USAAC will be owned by someone or group of people. To make the USAAC a entity in it's own right, it needs to be incorporated.

The Warships are a good group of guys. I'm sure that if Noodles and Sal want's to bring them over to the USAAC, they will be welcome with open arms. I welcome the Warships to join the USAAC. Sal knows we have a charter in place and whats involved in joining the USAAC. If they wanted to be a part of the USAAC they would of probably joined us a while back. I don't think they are waiting for Popgun's blessing in order to join the USAAC.

So Popgun just stick that knife in little deeper into Tbars twist it a little more. I'm sure he is use to it by now.

JoKeR

This is just the facts. Live with it!

We have already established that Independence is not the issue.

JFYI



OH AND POPGUN,

You are Unofficially banned from posting for 2 days...

Ok, so we did all of this for nothing. We where better off staying where were at. So, then that establishes that everything was done just for an attck on Tbar, ToWNet and ToW Club.

This was just some sick crap, I'm ashamed to be a part of it anymore.

A bunch of greedy people all wanting to have control over forums and websites, all disguised as

wanting the USAAC to be independent. Either that or my TS recorder is lying to me again.

Gee's what a group.

JoKeR