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#1
Hello all!

Well, the topic mostly says it all. I'm trying to get a MC group together. Some ppl of my guild already know that i'm in a fixed MC raid group and we're doing quite good i think (12th run or so and first 6 bosses down, all at least twice). Problem is though, that were full already and no ppl of my guild are in there (Ladymadonnax used to be in, but she had technical problems and got removed), so i thought about starting my own. The guild alliances with Feral Instinct and Holy Cow will help quite a lot i suppose.

Theres not many requirements for getting into it. A few are there though:

1. Be lvl 60

2. You have done the attunement quest

3. Have CTRA installed, this mod is a real must-have for pretty much all end-game instances. It can be found here

4. Yet another addon for Mages, Shammies, Druids and Priests: Decursive. It can be found here.

5. Have some time. Twice a week for 3 hours or so.

Other requirements/recommendations beside that (not crucial, but nice to have):

- If you want to main tank or off-tank, you should have some decent equipment already (mostly blues that is). Armor and Stamina are most important here, some fire resistance wouldn't be bad either, though it is not crucial at the beginning.

- We need one or two engineers who can make a repair bot

- Insignia is nice to have. Second boss fears a lot.

- First Aid at 300 and some runecloth bandages. Non-Tanks usually don't get healed, especially not in boss fights, Healing potions and Healthstones will help a lot too.

- I won't set a require build with one exception: MT must be prot specced and use a shield (quite obvious)

For those who don't know what to do when realms are down, you can check the Trashmob and Boss guides at my raid group: Link

If you feel you can fulfill those requirements (it's not like they are pretty hard to fulfill, mostly stuff that should be clear anyway), just post here, send me an in-game mail or a PM. It would be nice to have some ppl who have been to MC already...

Character List:

Total: 28

(+) OR

Warrior:

Koren

Turthalion

Reynard

Dindins

Agladeon

Raxorblade

Priest:

Blackzaqiua

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Druid:

Buxton

Asbach

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Rogue:

Whitestar

Killrah

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Hunter:

Ermintrude

Tizzi

Countgringot

Reddevil (+)

Theseus

Shaman:

Bratac

Sergarewhehehwww

Papawatcha

Dalixam

Buttercup

Retrokai

Mage:

Wigdar

Farzil

Deadmingers

Sabboleh

Greendevil (+)

Vorpid

Warlock:

DeathAwaits

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Paladins:

eh... forget that :-)

I didn't start any discussion about loot and invite queue yet, want to see first if there's enough ppl.

Can someone please post this to Holy Cow's forum as well, i forgot the URL.

Greetings,

DeathAwaits

Molten Core Group

#2
Definitly dude some things you might not know about the warrior bit though

I need to get draconian deflector, i've only run UBRS twice and it aint droppin. Koren is pretty well equipped, resists on those shoulders of his wouldn't go amiss and he already has the shield i need http://www.thottbot.com/?i=18989 . Warriors first but any shammys with shield wouldnt be an entirely bad thing either.

Defense stat, from what I've read, is important, especially for MT. Your gonna get struck critically and your gonna get hit like that alot. A somewhat decent defense stat DECREASES critical damage spike. I'll crunch the numbers later on today. I have a defense of about 350, so I dodge parry and block alot, ask buxton ;). Id really like to get to 400. The magic number used to be 425 i think or thereabouts, which is why they nerfed def because warriors where becoming immune to criticals. It was overpowered in the first place. Max def I'm gonna get pre mc is 370 or 380 if i'm lucky. If koren specs to 31/5/15 he *may* be able to tank. But from that time i did MC shield slam rocked when I was on nearly 100 rage all the time, i was just filling in sunders waiting for revenge and shield slam waiting to come off cool down... shield slam is a 31 defense point ability.

Although I'd rather koren kept his damage potential even if he is the best equipped

Btw i have 17 dark iron bars all I need are cores I can make helm and bracer and belt and the chest piece which is BOP. its expensive to make at 20 dark iron bars though, the epic helm costs 4 :/. The chest piece dont need no cores tho.

Bring resist armour and tanking armour

I will shoot anyone on site who wears valour Image

Molten Core Group

#3
Definitly dude some things you might not know about the warrior bit though
Yeah, i'm not a warrior and do not know much about them...
Warriors first but any shammys with shield wouldnt be an entirely bad thing either.
What for? They can't tank. We tried that once (that was the raid we invited you BTW) and had a shammie off-tank one core hound. He died within seconds, even with like 4 healers assigned on him. It was a near wipe...

Even the trash mobs in MC can kill a MT equipped with blues and a few epics in 3-5 blows, for cloth it's a 1 hit-kill and for shammies and hunters a 2 hit. This includes the very first 2 mobs (2 Molten Giants at the entrynce) and i didn't even start about Bosses yet. But alll healers will be assigned to heal the tanks, so you should be fine.

DPS classes and healers don't need any special equipment at the start, the usual lvl 60 blue crap should be enough.

Molten Core Group

#4
I sure would like to do that !

Usually i can do the 2 nights a week, but there might be weeks i can't due to work.

I've done MC once, when i was sort of a substitute for a group that was short on mages. We downed 3 bosses in that run :)

But i don't think you will get the 40 people needed to do MC at this moment. Seeing yesterdays meeting we had max 30 people then and some were not 60. So going for Zul Gurub first might be a better option.

And before i got disconnected alot yesterday i noticed we need some runs in the first place to get the raid more organised. Some people clearly don't know yet what it means to do the endgame raids. Thats not a problem but we need some time to all get the basics on this. As things went yesterday we will wipe at the first trash mobs :)

Me and Tizzi were on the Zul Girub raid with your MC group Deathawaits (the vexilium group) and that was a raid how it should be done. Everyone knew what to do and performed his duties.

These raids simply aren't the same as Scholo, Strat etc.

One other thing that i read on vexilium forum is that everyone disables damagemeters. I fuly agree to that. They stated 2 reasons for it, namely 1) There are reports of damagemeters causing serious lag (specially when more people are using it) and 2) People getting obsessed with staying on top in damage/healing which leads to wipes because they start DPS way too soon. As they say end game raids are all about teamwork and teamwork is the only way to be able to get somewhere.

Molten Core Group

#5
Your right in all points Wig. I'm not saying that we have to get started tomorrow, i just put this topic on mostly to see how many ppl we can get. Oh, and yes, i forgot about DamageMeters, it isn't very good anyway, in raid it calculates only the ppl who are near you, so the one running it will often end up first :)

Molten Core Group

#6
re: dmgmeters/healmeters

/signed!

used to be the bane of my life those damned things - as a priest I was once moved frm th MT grp and had th nightmare of 2 rogues running in to dps way too soon, not leaving th aoe cone to come n be healed (as they'd been told to) and then screaming at me when they died..... shame ^^

also healers frm other grps would be chucking heals on MT when NOT needed - so tank was getting over-healed for stupid amounts while other ppl were being left half-dead...

btw- why does no-one but MT's get healed???? lack of healers?

ps - 'lvl 60 blue crap' da? ^^

Molten Core Group

#8
Hey :),

Sign me up Deathawaits....

Wont go into any discussion with Turth on talent builds but ment to respec a bit anyways...but I wont lose MS.The defensive gear I got can get me up to 363 now and with a agiltiy buff ,MoW it keeps the crits of my back.Have 50 dark iron bars in bank for dark iron plate ,made myself the shoulders for now,will party with turth for rest of gear.

Ingame and on the job I dont talk much just tell me what to do and i'll take the hits ;).

Bring it on ,hope we get the party filled m8.

Koren

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