The Future of Raiding 2

Heya,

We can see that there is enough motivation to restart raiding around mid July so that means it is time to set up and fine tune the roles,signing,days, etc.

Buxton had some preliminary ramblings on make up, Yorga has investigated which people where up for runs and when, Kintoll had some chats in game so it looks like we are slowly warming up for it again.

The idea is to do 10 man runs ZA on a regular bases again, with an occasional 25 if we can get the manpower, we will slowly start recruiting again from people that have left and people we know.

To make it perfectly clear, eventhough we are a social raiding guild we all know that raiding is made difficult by people if rules are not in place and enforced.

We usually were very easygoing regarding the rules, but experience has shown us that that has not been in our favor.

That's why the following rules will apply when we restart :

GUILD FORMATION AND INVITES

- Dark venom will be a "virtual" raiding guild, main core characters will be in it but the raid will be formed with people from our coalition guilds or outside it.Invites to either DV game or virtual guild will be handled as before via guild forum or after officer meeting.

- We will use www.wow-raidar.com to sign up for raids if people don't sign up at least once a week they will not be running but reserve over regulars.

- Not signing for at least one raid a week without communication will have you removed.

- Not attending a raid you signed for without communication twice will have you removed.

- All communication via Raid Sign up forum on Tidesofwar.

- Location of raid unannounced till invite time.

- Raid leaders word is final on everything from invites to silence calls during tactics,not abiding to Raidleader during run after 2 warnings will have you removed

GOALS

- ZA cleared by end of summer

- Timed ZA bearmounts for every regular raider by start of WotLK (cause they will be removed!)

- Ample badges to equip our players till WotlK through Karazhan speed runs.(will probably be replaced so dont save up...)

- A well oiled raiding team that takes no crap from anybody, eating instance bosses for breakfast ASAP.

- Learning runs, if attendance allows (probably on Vasjh,Illidian,Hyal,BT,Sunwell trash)

DISCIPLINE

With a "white list" of players we know and trust this should be less of a problem, but we will be strict on being on time and prepared, Big Brother is a add on that monitors whether you used your buffing foods,pots,elixirs and is very helpful but will only be used on the occasion we push for a boss wich will be announced by the raid leader.Meaning everybody should have all the possibly buffing reagents on them during run.

Regular officers meeting Sunday afternoon to discuss players,invites,goals,etc..important notices from this meeting will be put up on DV guild forum.If there are issues concerning players they will be handled privately.

MEMBERS

Yorga's post showed us who are up for running again and we also have a lot of FI players joining us lately on wow-raidar.

The idea is to run ZA with fully kitted people,Be Imba score over 200 (inviting others on request or class needed basis) including Karazhan speed runs if wanted for badges.

But like Bux said I also see regular overlap with the rest of the player group as they are encouraged to form and sign up to regular Karazhan and heroics.This way they will get the needed gear improvements and badges so they can improve on their Imba score asap.

Moving up to Gruul runs if enough people with a < 200 Imba score are interested and ready off course.

People that have trouble getting their Be Imba score up please contact either Koren or Buxton so we can see what can be done (easily).

Alternative characters can and will be invited if a raid make up asks for it.

ROLES

Officers: Buxton, Eidokar, Kintoll, Koren, Windhoof,Deathstare

Invite priority (prior to run,or guild after officers meeting): Koren, Kintoll

Boss tactics (Prepping for Boss encounters, explanation during run and on forum): Koren

Karma (revised version): Kintoll,Buxton,Yorga

Master looter: Kintoll,Buxton, Yorga

Bankers (For depositing, managing BoE sales, monitoring consumable stock levels, redistributing raw mats & consumables): Windhoof, Eidokar

Raid leaders: Asbach, Buxton, Vaelthas, Yorga, Koren,Deathstare

Main tanks: Asbach, Buxton, Koren, Vaelthas

Raid times: 6-9 hours/week (2-3 nights, Thu/Fri/Sun or Thu/Sun/Mon)

Initially no DKP/karma (Most players get best equipment boost from badges now and in the 10 man runs its usually easily handled).

If anyone has questions or comments please reply in this topic.

Koren

i'd like to stress that it's in your own advantage to get used to wow-raidar asap. i haven't checked it for a week and wasn't aware that there was a raid last sunday just cuz i was unfamiliar with the site. further suggestions might follow once i've thought it through

Is the place we're goin to, decided at raid time by the officers? or is it a vote among the members in the party? or something else...

Is there a place we gather before a raid since we won't know where we're goin until we start traveling.

Wow-raidar provides the oppurtunity to sign up, and then the raidorganiser can "draft" ppl. Will this be used? or is all "drafting" done at raid time in game?

Will there be a "full" plan/agenda? i.e. : kill boss(es) x before <date> , etc etc...

Those were the first few things that came to mind, rest clear as crystal

I am glad to see finally some guidance and structure returning to DV.

How and when will the "white list" of players be picked and notified?

Vorp

Is the place we're goin to, decided at raid time by the officers? or is it a vote among the members in the party? or something else...

Raid Leader. What I've done so far is look at the balance in the morning of the raid day and decided then.

Is there a place we gather before a raid since we won't know where we're goin until we start traveling.

If its not announced prior to raid time, then Shattrath as the best portal point. As per above, I'd expect that it would normally be decided and balanced earlier in the day. Note that people signing after that are unlikely to get priority to run (so no waiting to see what the destination is before deciding whether to sign!)

Wow-raidar provides the oppurtunity to sign up, and then the raidorganiser can "draft" ppl. Will this be used? or is all "drafting" done at raid time in game?

Yes, this is how I've done it (in advance of the raid). Its a very nice tool, does just what we did with forums before but a lot easier.

Will there be a "full" plan/agenda? i.e. : kill boss(es) x before <date> , etc etc...

That one's for Koren or others

/bux

@ Yorga : Well ,primary goal is to master ZA ,all bosses,for all >200 Imba players (Imba players for short from now on ) then start fine tuning for speed as the instance can be done quite quickly for timed event and extra drops.

@ Vorpid : Will be printing a guild audit of players FI and DV tomorrow and check all the signed Raidar players by Imba score listing them here for reference. This will be the main raiding group for ZA as it is quite clear we need our best (and do our best) to get this instance on farm still.

The players that have low Imba score but high aspirations,attendance and motivation will get DV bank help to sort their gear,gems and enchants to enlarge our Imba player base.

Koren

Sounds really good guys

Specially like the thursday raiding day^^ that's one day i'm sure i'm able to attend, even from next week.

Now only to get my inba score up to 200

Cheers,

Shaldor

Very nice work guys, thanks alot .

Love the rules ,they should work.

I just found out my is PvE gear score: 133.35 on Be Imba !

So need to work on that big time

sounds cool, so do we have to give notice if we go on holiday etc?

@Knute (lee) naughty naughty on the forums in school:P

sounds cool, so do we have to give notice if we go on holiday etc?
@Knute (lee) naughty naughty on the forums in school:P

Pete you are in the room above me lol.

and asnwer to your question i think its best if ya do so they know becuase there a rule about if u dont raid u get removed.

I dont know where u put it tho .

See you at lunch babe :@