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Last Weeks Events

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Last Weeks Events

#11
without saying a word and then ignore when u try n talk to em
Never had a whisper from you....so i couldn't ignore you even if i wanted to
so before u blame me n wig for driving you out of th coalition - i'd love to know exactly how ;-)
Maybe you leaving raid when i came in is pure unlucky...Wigdar told me IRL chat he should make shure he never grouped with me again

his words...."lets see who is in coalition the longest"

So pardon me if i got really angry at him (and you because i thought you two discussed it and you left the same sec Wigdar did)

Last Weeks Events

#12
This thread has been locked to prevent this protracted argument resurfing. Neither "side" will come to a common clause. If one party admits they are wrong the other is unlikley to accept an apology and let it go. Someone may unlock it if they wish.

On a personal note since I have refused to get involved in somthing I know nothing about this far.

One of your guilds was started on horde side that no one knew about, I only figured it our remembering one of your old character names. The second was an alliance guild.

Secondly how people choose to play is their option. No one has told you flat out, respec l2p your class. Only problem I seen was your gear was insucffient to replace your talent as a mana efficent heal priest (and this had nothing to do with the day you quit, I wasnt online), unlike say buxton who has been collecting gear for an age. Even after saying this, you can still play how you like because nobody is ever in a position to tell someone else to respec, however I personally always welcome advcice and tbh I wish i got some from time to time as I feel like the only person on the server who likes to play how I do.

Personally when my GM decides to make another guild, without telling me I feel distrusted insulted and cast. If the reply to this was "I wasn't in da when I decided to make it" then I hope someone can see why I locked this thread.

It takes a big man to stick up for himself and a bigger man to say sorry.

I've an infinte amount of respect for the latter and I can tell anyone that I don't have to give that respect out often, because it never happens.

Not to many bigger men around these days.

(not aimed at any indivual, perhaps if one takes it personally maybe they have somthing to say, but probably not.)

Last Weeks Events

#13
Sorry Turth, had to unlock it again :)

I feel this has to be talked about and since Horrible won't come to me irl to talk about it it has to be here. Besides i don't mind having it out in the open, because it has affected a lot of people.

I do agree that this shouldn't be a endless yes/no story, so feel free to lock it again if you think thats the case.
Wigdar told me IRL chat he should make shure he never grouped with me again
his words...."lets see who is in coalition the longest"
I did say something like that, however translating it wrong makes it look bad to me.

First of all i said that i would never group with you again IF you went ahead with making a new guild. You left DA before that and we had a ZG with you in it already (when you were in FI). I didn't leave then. I didn't say anything. I let you play the way you wanted (and would still have done that). I felt you were an arse for just ignoring the people you had played with for a long time, but everyone's different i guess.

However when i heard you spammed for a guildcharter to be signed i did leave the raid. Because that to me was the biggest slap in my face (and to the others that you have played with for more then a year) that you could have given. Thats just saying "I don't care about anybody else, i do what i want". And thats fine if that's what you want to say, but i sure ain't gonna help you that way. And grouping with you would be helping you. Thats the whole point about an online game. You need others to get somewhere. And when you do need others you have to give some to get some.

And i never said "lets see who is in coalition the longest". I said "i won't group with you again if you do that and we shall see who remains in the coalition then", because that was the case. One of us had to leave and if it would have been me i would have lived with that. You make it sound like a blackmail or something, which it was not!

So stop blaming others for the events that took place. You and you alone are responsable for it. Others have just reacted on your behaviour. You say you got ###### at me and tizzi for our reaction, but think just 1 second about how we felt after the things that YOU had done.

You haven't started your guild yet and as far as i'm concerned you're welcome to come back to the coalition (although others need to agree to that). But if you do create the guild, the same thing will happen again. Thats just too much for me.

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